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Pohl Replaces Self as Nashiri Trial Judge

Colonel James Pohl, Chief Judge of the Military Commissions, on July 10, 2014 detailed the Air Force’s chief trial judge Col. Vance Spath to preside over the Nashiri capital case being prosecuted by military commission, thereby relieving himself of that duty. In his order, Pohl cited his reasons: ensuring continuity of the proceedings and avoiding scheduling conflicts with the 9/11 case, where Pohl sits as trial judge. At least one doubter has wondered whether—like Colonel Peter Brownback, who was terminated as chief presiding officer over the commissions when he displeased civilian higher-ups by dismissing a case—his hand was forced on this change. After all, Pohl recently caused quite a stir, directing the prosecution to produce to the defense a treasure trove of top secret CIA documents providing details of Nashiri’s imprisonment, interrogation and torture at secret black sites over four years, despite the government’s insistence that summaries would suffice. That scenario would be highly unlikely, however, given that Pohl will continue to preside over the 9/11 case, in which defense counsel have piggybacked on Nashiri’s motion by demanding the same CIA documents for their clients. Pohl naturally is expected to enter a similar order in that case. As though he foresaw the doubter’s question, however, Pohl stated in the order: “The detailing decision was made solely by me….”

In my Ebook My Week at Guantánamo’s War Court, I gave Pohl high marks for his fine judicial temperament, patience and evident fairness during that week, and that was before he courageously ordered that CIA family jewels be delivered to Nashiri’s counsel. Will Judge Spath deploy those qualities to the same extent, or will the diluted justice inherent in military commission prosecutions detailed in my book be further impaired because a lesser judge will preside? In response to my tweet (@CharlesRChurch1) to a former chief prosecutor at the war tribunals, Air Force Colonel (Ret’d) Morris Davis, he replied: “I’ve known (Spath) for years. Good guy, lots of courtroom experience.”

Though brief, that provides a measure of assurance. Let’s fervently hope that Spath’s performance compares favorably to Pohl’s.

And Then There Were Four

What does a judge do when he’s presiding over the highest profile case at Guantanamo’s military commissions; the charges against all five defendants are based substantially on the same facts; the case has been dogged by delays, many of which relate to a single defendant; and he’s acutely aware that the survivors of the horrific attacks, and the blood relations of the many who died, feel painfully frustrated that no verdict has been rendered even though 13 years have dragged by since the crimes?

I am referring to the 9/11 case and Judge James Pohl, and he just dealt with that dilemma. He severed the charges against one of the defendants, Ramzi Binalshibh, charged with being a liaison between the aircraft hijackers and Al Qaeda’s leaders, according to a July 24, 2014 Washington Post piece.

Questions about Binalshibh’s mental competence had been raised years ago. But earlier this year, prosecutors asked to have him evaluated, after he repeatedly disrupted commission proceedings and had to be removed from the courtroom. Further, the FBI had interfered with his case by secretly interrogating two non-lawyer members of his defense team, triggering a potential conflict of interest between the accused and his lawyers. (See the prior Post on this page, “From Tragedy to Farce”).

Pohl’s order cited the need to find out whether Binalshibh has the mental competence to participate in a trial and to resolve whether he requires new counsel, on account of the FBI’s actions. And these matters are, in his view, “not expected to be completed in the near term.”
No doubt Pohl realized how heavy a price would be paid for his unusual decision. Now, in effect, he will have to try the same case twice, and Binalshibh’s trial will be delayed until, his lead counsel asserted, “a long time in the future.” Clearly, Pohl believes that accelerating the 9/11 trial is worth that price. Indeed, in an earlier action that also will expedite the 9/11 case, Pohl in his role as chief judge of the commissions recently replaced himself as presiding judge over the high profile al Nashiri prosecution, to avoid scheduling conflicts with the 9/11 matter.

Inside View of Torture and Courts

Charles R. Church

Charles Church observed the trial of
suspected terrorist Abd al Rahim al Nashiri,
and shared his observations May 10 in Salisbury. (Photo by Patrick L. Sullivan)

Thu, 05/22/2014 – 9:22am
By Patrick L. Sullivan

SALISBURY — Attorney Charles Church described the pre-trial maneuverings in the case of Abd al Rahim al Nashiri, a suspected terrorist who has been held by the United States since 2002, to an audience at the Scoville Memorial Library Saturday, May 10.

Church, author of the e-book “My Week at Guantanamo’s War Court” and a Lakeville Journal columnist, spent a week as an observer at Guantanamo in April 2013.

He said he had the choice of observing the al Nashiri case or the “more colorful” case against the men accused of planning the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

While the latter featured theatrical aspects such as a female member of the defense team dressing in traditional Arab clothing, he said he was glad to get the al Nashiri case in part because “the lawyers are fascinating.”

Church emphasized several times that the cases are being tried by military courts, not bound by the rules of civilian courts.

He quoted the lead defense attorney, Richard Kammen, as telling the judge, James Pohl, “We are making this up as we go.”

Al Nashiri is suspected of being in charge of the 2000 attacks on ships, including the USS Cole bombing. Church said after his capture in 2002, Nashiri was held in secret CIA facilities and tortured.

Nashiri was brought to Guantanamo in 2006 and has been there ever since.

“Torture is one of the elephants in the room in the case,” he said.

Some of the methods used to torture Nashiri are known, he continued. While naked and hooded, a power drill was operated near his head, and a pistol slide ratcheted.

The judge has ordered the government to provide full details of the interrogations. To date, the CIA has provided summaries.

Church said Kammen “went ballistic” in a secret session the defendant was not allowed to attend, arguing that the CIA has a history of misleading the court and that the summaries are false.

(He added that Kammen wears a kangaroo pin in his lapel, leaving no doubt as to his opinion on how the pre-trial process is proceeding.)

Kammen said the government is trying to hide the truth of Nashiri’s interrogation. Church quoted Kammen: “This desire for secrecy is the reason we are here, as opposed to a real court.”

Church said he found Pohl “estimable” as a jurist, but noted that the judge, an Army colonel, is employed under a one-year, renewable contract, and wondered if that might cloud his judgment.

Church described other aspects of the pre-trial process that would be very problematic in a civilian court, such as the discovery of listening devices hidden in the smoke detectors in the room the defense team used, or that the government had access to defense emails from a Department of Defense server both teams were using.

The rules are far different in the military courts. For instance, hearsay evidence is allowed at the judges’ discretion.

“How do you cross-examine hearsay?”

And the fact that Nashiri faces the death penalty was always on Church’s mind. “It is particularly sobering to watch a capital case. Films and television don’t evoke the same emotions.

“You’re looking at the guy they are trying to kill.”

Church said “my own lament” is that federal courts have tried about 100 terrorism cases, with a conviction rate in the high 90 percent bracket.

“So you can’t say that granting the accused more rights has gotten in the way of results.”

But, he added, Congress has banned the transfer of Guantanamo prisoners to the mainland.

“So we’re staggering along with these courts, where weird things always happen.”

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Charles Church to Talk About Experience at Gitmo

Litchfield County Times
Published: Friday, May 09, 2014

Charles R. Church


Charles Church. (Photo by Kathryn Boughton – Litchfield County Times.)

The souls of nations, like the souls of the people who make up those nations, are always in peril. Each moral or ethical decision we make contributes to the tenor of our communities and, by extension, our world. If verification of this concept is needed, contemplate how the words of our Founding Fathers have resonated in lands around the world in the past two and a half centuries as more and more countries have struggled toward democracy and increasing civil liberties.

Despite a somewhat checkered human rights past, the United States has often held itself up as a beacon, an embodiment of a land where there is “liberty and justice for all.” It is the gruel fed to Americans in their infancy, a firmly held belief that we are morally superior, generous and kindly in our relations with others. That self-assessment has been repeatedly challenged during our war-like history, but perhaps never more so than in the aftermath of 9/11 when a shaken nation determined it would relinquish some civil liberties for increased security and would ignore our principled instincts to engage in actions we would condemn in others.

Among the ethical casualties of that era was our abhorrence of torture and a turning away from habeas corpus, which guarantees a prisoner will be brought promptly before a court to ensure there is sufficient cause for him or her to be detained. And, even when trials of suspected terrorists have finally been held, the rule of law has been bent.

This Saturday human rights lawyer Charles Church of Salisbury will describe his experiences last June at Guantanamo as an observer of the pretrial proceedings in the capital prosecution of the Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, a “high value” detainee. His talk will take place at the Scoville Library in Salisbury at 4 p.m.

Mr. al-Nashiri allegedly captained Osama bin Laden’s “boats operation,” which lethally struck the U.S.S. Cole in Aden Harbor and attacked other ships. He was captured by the CIA in 2002 and held at black sites, before being transferred in 2006 to Guantanamo.

Mr. Church will provide a first-hand account of the commission’s proceedings and describe the major players in the case. He will also evaluate the kind of justice that military commissions dispense in our behalf. He says he came away disappointed in the military tribunal process.

He summed up his war court experience up this way: “I carried with me to Gitmo a deep skepticism about the war courts and departed even more troubled. Truly, as the lead defense counsel for al-Nashiri kept telling the judge, ‘We’re making it up as we go.'”

Mr. Church recently published an e-book titled “My Week at Guantanamo’s War Court,” which is available at Amazon’s Kindle Store. In a jacket blurb, Prof. Mark Denbeaux, counsel to Guantanamo detainees, writes, “Few people understand how dangerous the Military Commission proceedings in Guantanamo are to the rule of law as we know it. Charles Church has raised the alarm in a clear and compelling way that is a service to all.”

Mr. Church has dedicated his life to working in the law, helping to fight age discrimination experienced by American workers. After his retirement in 1999, he cast about for something to do with the rest of his life before reading “The Dark Side: The Inside Story of How the War on Terror Turned Into a War on American Ideals,” a New York Times best book of the year, written by New Yorker political correspondent Jane Mayer.

“She wrote how the United States gave up its soul to fight the war on terror,” he recalled. “I read it and said, ‘I know what I want to do. I want to do this kind of work.’”

His quest to find an organization that could use his talents took longer than he expected, but he eventually found his way to Mark Denbeaux, director of the Seton Hall Law School Center for Policy and Research. Mr. Church is an alumni of Seton Law School.

“I called him and told him I wanted to help,” Mr. Church recalled. “He said, ‘Charles, there is a line of people who want to do this.’ I said, ‘Give me anything to do and if you don’t like it a lot, I will go away.’”

That first experience led to a fruitful experience and Mr. Church has received more and more work from the professor. His service led Professor Denbeaux to offer him one of the coveted non-governmental observer slots for the trial proceedings at Guantanamo. While there, Mr. Church saw many disquieting things that left him in such turmoil he was compelled to write his book.

Some of the difficulties with the “dysfunctional” court system he observed were subliminal impressions, he admitted. He noted that the presiding judge, James L. Pohl, is an Army colonel, while the prosecutor, Mark S. Martins, is a brigadier general. “Sometimes there was a feeling in court of ‘I outrank you,’” Mr. Church reported. “I don’t know if that is true, but there are observers who believe it is.”

The defense team, led by civilian Richard Kammen, has been made uncomfortable by the leak of 779 documents concerning Guantanamo detainees, some of which related to the defense. That leak led to a delay in proceedings while the defense recovered. “The prosecution said they didn’t read the documents,” Mr. Church said with a clear note of skepticism in his voice.

Even more serious is the physical condition and mental health of the prisoner. Mr. al-Nashiri was captured in 2002 and taken to black sites at unknown locations around the world where he was presumably tortured before being remanded to Guantanamo. “How would you feel if you were an Arab guy who 11 years ago was captured and spirited off and tortured for four years before being brought to Gitmo? You do not receive health care and you are kept there for years before two charges are brought against you.”

Mr. al-Nashiri has been reported to be suffering from depression and Post- Traumatic Stress Disorder. Carol Rosenberg, writing in the Miami Herald, has suggested that these conditions resulted from his torture and incarceration and would be mitigating factors in sentencing.

In the pretrial phase, Mr. Church said, some evidence considered to jeopardize national security was presented to the judge in secret. “Even the prisoner cannot hear this evidence,” he noted. “He is certainly entitled to all the evidence during his trial, but the pre-trial stuff he can’t hear. Mr. Kammen argued that he could not maintain the trust of his client when [court officers] go off to a locked room to talk about him.”

Also at issue for Mr. Church is the liberal use of hearsay. A tenet of a fair trial is  that the prisoner has the right to face his accusers, but in these trials there is a much broader interpretation of hearsay evidence. Mr. Church said that “al- Nashiri’s defense counsel has asked the judge how he can zealously defend his client when he cannot cross examine the sources quoted by witnesses. It has been a constant subject of debate.”

Mr. Church expressed admiration for both the prosecutor and the defense counsel. He noted that the prosecution of such cases has “soiled” military careers and that General Martins has given up future advancement to take on difficult cases that will stretch on until his retirement.

“He came to talk to us observers one night and conducted a real charm offensive,” Mr, Church said of General Martins. “It put me off, but in another sense, he is the real deal. He gave up advancement to do this.”

Mr. Kammen, who is working with fewer assistants than the military team, “is tireless and ferocious,” according to the observer. “I deeply admire him. He has dedicated his life to this kind of defense. He came to talk to us Friday night after a long week in court. He wasn’t so obvious about it. His complaint is the disparity in resources. The military can get anything it wants but the defense has to request funding for everything it needs, from paperclips to copy paper. They have to go to the judge and the government fights tooth and nail to deny it. They have been turned down.”

Since his return home Mr. Church has continued to monitor the trial, following current developments. This complicated writing his book because the topic remained “a moving target,” he said. The completed book is now available on Amazon.com.

“I oppose capital punishment,” he concluded. “If al-Nashiri is guilty, he should pay. But many feel that even if he is exonerated, he will never be free.” 

From Tragedy to Farce—Redux

I noted in a prior post the quoted title from a Miami Herald editorial on April 19, when it wrote about “a series of jaw-dropping revelations and rulings” from Guantánamo’s military commissions. In that post I described how, as reported by the paper’s Carol Rosenberg, the FBI had, according to a lawyers for a defendant in the 9/11 case, tried “to turn a defense team security officer into a secret informant.” Then I promised to write soon about Judge Pohl’s order directed to the CIA, which—so far—the agency has refused to say whether it will honor.

It has long been known that Nashiri—the alleged author of the lethal attack in 2000 on the USS Cole, among the war crimes charged against him—was captured and spirited away by the CIA to secret black sites beginning in 2002. There he was interrogated and tortured, until he was transferred to Guantánamo in 2006, where he remains to this day. Only fragments about Nashiri’s torture are publicly known. Not much more than that he was waterboarded, and interrogated at the point of a revving power drill (while hooded and naked) and a racked pistol near his head. Most of the rest remains highly classified.

Yet his torture will have paramount importance during his trial in at least two regards. The Military Commissions Act of 2009 (unlike its 2006 predecessor and Bush’s 2002 Military Order governing the first version of the military commissions, which the U.S. Supreme Court found unlawful), precludes from admission into evidence any statement produced by torture or by cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment. And Brigadier General Mark Martins, the chief prosecutor, has declared that the government will not offer any such evidence. But Martins already has staked out a major loophole to this vow, whereby the prosecution may use statements originally produced by torture. A statement may become voluntary, he has argued, after the passage of time from torture, where the accused is questioned in a different location, perhaps by other interrogators. “The point that I reject and the law rejects,” he said, “is that there can be no voluntary statements following an instance of coercion.”

Further, if Nashiri is found guilty, his torture would become relevant to the sentence to be rendered, whether death or otherwise. That is, using his lead counsel’s terminology, evidence of torture would be adduced to seek mitigation of Nashiri’s punishment.

Hence, in one sense it’s no surprise that on April 14, 2014, Judge Pohl—after an in-chambers argument on account of the sensitivity of the matters discussed—directed that the prosecution provide (among other things):

1. A chronology identifying where Nashiri was detained (think black sites) from the time of his capture until his arrival at Guantánamo in September 2006;

2. All documents showing the conditions of Nashiri’s confinement, and Nashiri’s condition when transferred to other locations;

3. The identities of medical personnel and interrogators having direct and substantial contact with Nashiri;

4. SOPs and guidelines on handling, transporting, and interrogating high value detainees at or between various facilities (again, think black sites);

5. All statements from interrogators, summaries of interrogations, interrogation logs and interrogator notes of interrogations of Nashiri and his alleged co-conspirators;

6. Un-redacted copies of documents memorializing decisions on requests to employ Enhanced Interrogation Techniques on the accused and all alleged co-conspirators.

Since the CIA undoubtedly is the repository for many if not all of these documents—after all, the agency operated the black sites—newspaper headlines have proclaimed that the order was directed to the CIA, not to the Prosecution in Nashiri’s case. See, for example, the April 17 article by the Miami Herald’s Carol Rosenberg, titled “Guantánamo judge to CIA: Disclose ‘black site’ details to USS Cole defense lawyers,” which points out that “the order sets the stage for a showdown between the CIA and a military judge,” should the agency refuse to turn the documents over. One person who had read the order before its release told Rosenberg: “It’s a nuclear bomb that may shut down the case,” because it covers so many of the agency’s closely guarded secrets. Lead defense counsel Richard Kammen stated: “We note that the CIA has lied to at least three federal courts, the 9/11 Commission and, according to the newspapers, Congress. This demonstrated history of lying clearly obligates us to do a full investigation.”

Defense attorneys in the 9/11 case, upon learning of Pohl’s order (he also presides over that case), have sought the same information about their clients.

Rosenberg reported further on April 22, that the CIA had declined to comment on whether the agency would comply with Pohl’s order.

Since, in effect, Pohl is ordering production of the CIA’s family jewels, my bet holds that—at the least—the agency will seek an interlocutory appeal of the order. If this effort fails, conversely, I wouldn’t bet that the agency will comply with the order.

Charles R. Church

April 26, 2014